9 thoughts on “Don Minutella: La Question de la Messe « UNA CUM » FRANÇOIS ?”

  1. Now I wonder what I might do if a non-Catholic I know wanted to convert, since I’m not aware of any faithful priests in my area, let alone a bishop.

    What would you do in that situation?

    I suppose we could teach them the faith ourselves, and conditionally baptize them if necessary.

  2. Also, if the mortally sinful nature of receiving sacraments from priests whom we know to be in communion with an antipope, is news (as it was to me – so many distractions since I learned about the issue and finally realized the truth) then it means there might be thousands of souls who are struggling right now with despair. And if they’re in mortal sin and can’t access a loyal priest, might it make sense that they spend their prayer time totally differently until they can confess?

    Because if Our Lord doesn’t hear prayers of souls in mortal sin, then should such people perhaps pray only for perfect contrition, rather than for any other intention, even for their loved ones?

    1. You cannot merit or obtain by prayer God’s forgiveness for a mortal sin. But those in the state of grace can beg this grace for you. However, if you have not fallen away from the faith, then the faith you still have can indicate the road back to repentance and to the cooperation with grace. However, it is neigh impossible that a priest involved in the same sin, and unrepentant, will be able to help you.

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  4. There seems to be a contradiction here.

    Re: “It’s true that St. Thomas specifies that one can go to the Mass of heretics as long as there is no sentence of the Church…but in the event that the heresy is carried out by those who should fight it…(ie) the Pope, how can one expect a sentence of condemnation against him? And above all, who should this formal condemnation come from?”

    Why might Don Minutella imply that Pope Benedict cannot do this?

    1. Saint Thomas says no such thing, because there are 2 rules for right conscience, knowledge of the truth and obedience. If the Church has not yet condemned, we have no obligation from obedience to Her. But if we know a man is heretic, we have obligation from the truth. Thus we cannot excuse our conscience on the basis of the fact that the Church has not yet condemned. That would be ridiculous pharaseism. But unless you know Thomas, you would not understand these distinction.

      1. Then did Don Minutella misquote St. Thomas, or is the translation wrong (S.Th. III, q82, a.9)?

      2. I do not know what Don Minutella has said on this argument, but it merits a study, and so I will write an article on St Thomas here at FromRome.info

      3. There’s an important distinction between you and me: You have a perfect reputation as a Catholic, as anyone can verify who has internet access, and no one knows me. So when you write to the clergy of Rome with your argument for Pope Benedict, and receive no reply, you can be sure your letters fell into the hands of schismatics and/or heretics. But when I write to a priest, I have to consider any number of other reasons I was ignored before I judge him.

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