Why Tyconius’ idea of a future Great Discessio is heretically wrong

by Br. Alexis Bugnolo

The other day, Marco Tosatti launched on his blog, an anonymous essay, about the Donatist writer Tyconius‘ idea of a final great separation of the true Church from the false Church. And since I am seeing many refer to it across the net, I believe it is necessary to warn against how great an error it contains.

Tyconius was a Donatist. Donatists believed that there were some sins so great that EVEN WHEN REPENTED OF they put you out of the Church. It was a very convenient theory for that group of Catholics in North Africa, who having faithfully endured and resisted the final persecutions of Diocletian, considered themselves therefore not only superior but entitled to govern the Church thereafter.

In the Apocalypse of the Apostle John, we read about the beast with 10 horns, the last of which has one horn removed and three sprout up in its stead. Some writers interpret these horns as the 10 major persecutions of the Catholic Church in the Roman Empire, which culminated with the persecutions of Diocletian, which was a threefold persecution: confiscating the Scriptures, rounding up the clergy, and demanding all Catholic to burn incense on an altar of Mars, the refusal to comply with which was in each case to be punished by local authorities with death.

In many parts of the Roman Imperium the local authorities were reluctant to persecute Christians in such a vicious manner. They allowed Catholics to purchase a document, a libellum, which stated they had burned incense or otherwise cooperated with the decrees of Diocletian. For many lax-conscienced Catholics this was the easy way out. Others burned the incense, handed over priests to death, and surrendered copies of the books of Scripture and liturgical texts.

After Constantine decreed that Catholics had the liberty to worship the Triune God, Catholics returned to practice their faith, and indeed, were now allowed to do so in the open light of the day.

Throughout the Church, the Bishops called for the repentance of those who had failed to resist the terms of the persecution and chose treachery, idolatry or apostasy as a way out.  Long penance where required. In some places a life time of waiting at the door of the Church, with re-admittance to communion only at death.

A great controversy about the Sacrament of Penance broke out in the Church, with some espousing the idea, which was common, that this Sacrament can only be received once in a lifetime sincerely, others that it could be received more often.

But in North Africa the situation was even more grave, since many bishops had denied the faith, obtained libella, handed over the scriptures and betrayed their priests, or burned incense to Mars (the Roman God, not the planet).

When these repented and received the Sacrament of Penance, they were admitted back to communion in many Churches, even back to their offices.

The idea of a ex-apostate, ex-traitor, ex-idolater, ex-collaborator as one’s bishop incensed the Catholics of North Africa.  This is totally understandable, and in an age of persecution, we ourselves can readily appreciate their just anger.

But some Catholics went to the extreme of asserting that such men, EVEN WHEN REPENTANT and reconciled to the Church, could no longer hold the offices of Bishop or pastor of souls.

This group was led by a certain Donatus, and so they were called Donatists.  He taught that these repentant clergy were still so odious to God that even the Sacraments they confected were invalid.

So his followers separated from them and began ordaining their own bishops and clergy and seizing Churches. As they had numerous Bishops and clergy among their number, these ordinations and consecrations were valid. But they were usurping jurisdiction in those dioceses where there were already bishops, albeit repentant ones.

So Tyconius’ had a very bad personal experience upon which to begin to theorize interpretations of St. John’s Apocalypse, on such passages as the Whore of Babylon and the Stars Swept out of the Sky by the Dragon’s tail.

His idea was that at the end of time, the True Church and the False Church, which had been cohabiting in the one visible Church, would separate from one another in a sort of final divorce. He called it the great Discessio, a Latin word which means, “walking away from one another”.

And his error was a serious one, because he posited that the false and evil men, who were not among the elect, were not true members of the true Church, and that therefore the Church of the Antichrist or the Body of the Antichrist, as it came to be called in the writings of St. Augustine of Hippo, were a real entity, and thus positively willed by God (since nothing can have real existence but what is positively willed by God).

St. Thomas Aquinas, about a thousand years later, explained how wrong this error is when he succinctly summarized the Catholic doctrine on evil: evil is the deprivation of some good which ought to be in a real existing thing. It has no existence of itself.

The Catholic interpretation of the Apocalypse therefore never envisions the Church of the Antichrist or the Mystical Body of the Antichrist as something positively willed by God, as a real thing existing by itself. It is rather an infection, disease, evil in the one true Mystical Body, though its “members” are really only those who heed the voice of Demons rather than that of God.

Now if Cardinal Ratzinger mused on occasion about Tyconius’ theories, that is nothing really notable, since he commented on the theories of many theologians, Catholic or otherwise during his lifetime. And that he repeated his opinions as Roman Pontiff, means nothing more too, because Popes can express private opinions, as John XXI did regarding what he believed was the necessity that the Saints be purified before attaining Heaven (condemned as a heresy, by his Successor).

But in our day, this error of Tyconius is especially dangerous, because those who accept it would be led to think like Tyconius, that they can pursue fidelity to the will of Jesus Christ by abandoning the visible Church, founding their own Churches, and thus coping out of the Church Militant by a de facto surrender to the forces of Darkness which want to take Her down.

And this is just what the Globalists and Bergoglians would want Catholics to do, because they do not want a restoration. They want to take full possession of the property, moral and legal authority of the visible Church.

Marco Tosatti has been shown the evidence that Benedict XVI is still the pope. He has allowed discussion of it, but personally he has rejected the opinion. He has even stooped to vile insults of those who defend the Holy Father, giving them no space to defend themselves on his blog.

So it does not surprise me that he is airing a theory which is basically saying, “Surrender to Bergoglio and to the Church he is founding”.

But this notion of Tyconius is shared ideologically and widely by many groups, which style themselves as Traditionalist, such as Sedevacantists and many priests and priestly groups which espouse the Traditional Latin Mass, because it is a convenient theory to justify opting out of the visible Church, ignoring Canon law, usurping jurisdiction and authority and washing one’s hands of any responsibility to work for the salvation of your Diocese.

However, it should be noted and highlighted by everyone, that the Holy Father clearly uses a different theory in his Declaratio, when he speaks the vobis decisionem magni momenti. He is speaking not of a great separation, but of how he is announcing that there exists between him and the Cardinals a separation, and that he is cutting them off from the Papal Munus since they won’t obey him any more. His use of the term decisio (“a cutting off”, “a pruning away”) rather than discessio, show that he understands that the Church of the AntiChrist has no life and can have no life separated from the true Church, and its time to distinguish the wheat from the tares. Indeed, what he did in his Declaratio of Feb. 11, 2013, is the means whereby those with true Faith can discern what is going on, while those blinding by their lusts for the world, flesh and devil, cannot.

CREDITS: The Featured Image is a depiction of the meeting between St. Augustine of Hippo and the leaders of the Donatist party, by Charles Andre van Loos (18th century). Note the anachronistic clothing.

 

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The Church of Bergoglio is the Church of Sodom & Gomorrah

Commentary by Br. Alexis Bugnolo

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The plot against Pope Benedict XVI has come full circle. Launched in the year he punished Cardinal McCarrick in private, the front man for the Vatican putsch, Jorge Mario Bergoglio, has finally achieved step-by-step what they conspirators wanted, the rehabilitation of serial homosexual pedophiles and rapists and groomers in the Sacred Hierarchy.

Pope Benedict XVI had expelled more of them from the priesthood than any pope in history, as he finds them to be a disgusting blight on the Church. For these creeps, he was a persona non toleranda (not to be tolerated), and had to go.

The entire hunt for pedo priests which secular media and governments have undertaken for 20+ years so publicly was not to end this problem, but rather to rattle the cage of these creeps in the Church and let them know that unless they do the will of international Freemasonry and take down the Church from within, their number is up. This is how Hilary Clinton and Barrack Obama suborned this faction and got them to orchestrate the “New Springtime” in the Catholic Church.

And if I am correct on my analysis, the rehabilitation of Cardinal McCarrick is a sign that Bergoglio is about to leave, stage left and hell bound. McCarrick is not some nobody Cardinal, he must be a high priest in some Satanic clique, very high up, to have such strong and persevering allies.

Remember this when you think to attend a mass in communion with the true Pope who opposed these creeps or the false one who rehabilitates them, because in the hour of your death, if your choice is the latter, your use of such excuses for such effrontery to God will no longer have any effectiveness.

Masons know whom not to tolerate in their own causes. And on our side of the fence, only the Saints know who should never be tolerated. We should imitate the latter if we do not want to end up in the Hell created for the former.

Walt Disney releases Cartoon to help Children accept the Antichrist

Editor’s Note: When you consider how much work and investment must go into the creation of a new Cartoon, you can begin to understand how utterly pathological must be the psychopathy and perversion in Walt Disney inc.. Oh, and voting for masonic political parties has enabled this, because in a Catholic State, a company’s executives and its workers who produced such a video would be burnt at the stake.

7 Signs that you have accepted the Antichrist as your savior

by Br. Alexis Bugnolo

There is a lot of religious hypocrisy among Christians today. Hypocrisy consists in professing Jesus Christ but living according to the directions of the world, the flesh, or Satan. And alas, too many scoff that they are doing so.

Therefore, since as a son of St. Francis, I am obliged to announce: Death, Judgement Punishment and Reward, that is, the 4 Last things, which a Christian will know in the end, I will now solemnly announce to you all….

Death,

that is, each one of us at an hour and day unknown, and place unknown, will die. With each day and hour, that moment draws nearer. And we must be prepared….

Judgement,

that is, in the hour of our death, we are judged by Jesus Christ, to be found worthy of Him or worthy of eternal damnation. There is no middle ground.

Punishment,

that is, if we are found to be the enemies of God, hypocrites or possessed by any impure or sinful desire which prevailed over final repentance and the observance of God’s Law, we shall be sent down to Hell, there to be punished in infinite torment for all eternity and to experience imaginable horrors for having spurned the easy rules of the God of Love, our Creator. (More on this here) — Or if we be found to be the friends of God by repentance, but have debts to pay because we did not do penance for all the sins we repented of, then we will be held in Purgatory until we expiate that debt, or the prayers of the living release us.

Reward,

that is, if you are found to be a true and spotless friend of Jesus Christ, who believed everything He taught, and was sorry for all your transgressions against His Words, then you will go to Heaven to enjoy the blessed Vision of God, the company of Angels and Saints, for all eternity

But alas,

Since we live in an age of deluded, self-loving hypocrisy, someone has to list some of the reasons we are instead headed to destruction…

So here goes,

The 7 Signs that you Serve the AntiChrist

1. You tell lies and do not care about the truth.

2. You live lies and do not care about living the truth. As for example, you divorced your spouse, you counsel your children to divorce, you live with another after a divorce, you use the powers of procreation for your own pleasure and not to have children, you willingly ignore the laws of the Church, the teachings of Jesus Christ and the Laws of God.

3. You attend Mass in communion with someone you know is a heretic. And you excuse your sin of spiritual fornication, by pretending that public worship is valid if you yourself participate, kind of like saying that sex is ok by yourself. That is how perverse this notion is.

4. You attend Mass in communion with someone you know is the Anti-Pope. And you excuse your sin of spiritual adultery, because you pretend that public worship is valid if you yourself participate regardless of with whom you do it, kind of like saying that you can fulfill your marriage debt with someone other than your spouse. That is how perverse this notion is.

5. You attend Mass with someone you know is an unrepentant idolator. And you excuse your sin of spiritual idolatry, because you pretend that public worship is valid so long as you worship God even if others round you worship Devils, kind of like saying that all religions are equal, what matters, is the devotion expressed in the act: that is how perverse this notion is.

6. You obey those who serve Satan and his minions, such as the Globalists or Freemasons. And you excuse your sin because you do not want to risk anything for God and are willing to deny him in deeds even when threatened with the smallest inconvenience. And you proved this by taking the DeathVaxx and wearing the DeathMask or taking the DeathSwab. But you prove this every election by voting for a party run by the sons of Satan, which is not consecrated to the Sacred Hearts, and which does not have the establishment of Christ’s Reign on Earth as its political objective.

7. You in nothing but words seek liberty from these 7 sins. You don’t repent, you only lament. And you excuse this, because you really love Satan, the spirit of rebellion and the lifestyle that they are imposing on humanity. You want more, so you refuse to get off the train bound for Hell.

And just as many have shown themselves willing to deny Jesus Christ during the Scamdemic, so now, Catholics who are repentant or who refused to deny him, must now do much more to serve him and make radical decisions to change course.

 

JD Rucker responds to Biden’s Witch-Hunt Tirade against “Maga Republicans”

Editor’s Note: While I agree that the Globalists are launching an attack on anti-Globalists in the USA, I profoundly disagree that MAGA Republicans are the anti-Globalists, since they are controlled entirely by Skull and Bones, who funded Hitler and Stalin, founded the CIA, started an ideological war against the Catholic Church and founded the EU, the UN and the WEF. What is going on here is the Hegelian Manipulation that the Skull and Bones Lodge is famous for. Set up an enemy of the People and then set up a Savior of the People, so that in the process Christendom is further destroyed, citizens are further enslaved and the destruction goes forward while creating a narrative to excuse it. And whether one side wins or another, they win.  The real opposition are Christians who oppose Globalism with Christendom. We are the targets of both groups. This developing narrative of Maga vs AntiMaga is merely a cover for that war against us. — That Trump responded to this speech by Biden by citing the meaning of MAGA, you should see our series on that phrase and what it really means.