15 thoughts on “Marshall and Flanders discuss Viganò Appeal, worry that it might lead to recognition of Pope Benedict XVI”

1. How do we know for certain that Pope Benedict is still alive.
   Certainly we should be concern for his safety.

   1. Well, I do no think there is anyone in the Vatican who would conceal his death.

2. Only the real and the truth matter. Are they not interested in an honest inquiry? If it leads to the conclusion they now hold or to the opposite, as long it is real and true, of what can they fear?!!

3. “There has to be a public juridical act…”

   The fact that prior to his election as pope, Jorge Bergoglio, denied that sin done in private was sin, and thus ipso facto separated himself from Christ and His One, Holy, Catholic, And Apostolic Church, outside of which, there is no Salvation, due to The Unity Of The Holy Ghost, is the public act that reveals “an expression of will”, (of the actor) that is intended to have legal consequences”, the legal consequences being the actor, separating himself from Christ and His Church.

   The separation has occurred regardless if there is a public judicial act declaring it to be so. The fact that prior to his election as pope, Jorge Bergoglio denied The Unity Of The Holy Ghost, and the thus the fact that “It is not possible (in public or in private), to have Sacramental Communion without Ecclesial Communion”, is evidence enough that the election of Jorge Bergoglio, who prior to his election demonstrated that he is anti Pope, and anti Filioque, can not possibly be valid.

   “ Whoever is against the Pope is, ipso facto, outside the Church.”

   “If there is a union of a private nature, there is neither a third party, nor is society affected.” –
   Jorge Bergoglio, prior to his election as pope, denying the Sanctity of the marital act within The Sacrament Of Holy Matrimony, and thus denying that God, The Most Holy And Undivided Blessed Trinity, Through The Unity Of The Holy Ghost, Is The Author Of Love, Of Life, And Of Marriage, while denying that sin done in private is sin, and thus denying The Unity Of The Holy Ghost (Filioque).

   From The Catechism Of The Catholic Church:
   II. THE DEFINITION OF SIN
   “1849 Sin is an offense against reason, truth, and right conscience; it is failure in genuine love for God and neighbor caused by a perverse attachment to certain goods. It wounds the nature of man and injures human solidarity. It has been defined as “an utterance, a deed, or a desire contrary to the eternal law.”121

   1850 Sin is an offense against God: “Against you, you alone, have I sinned, and done that which is evil in your sight.”122 Sin sets itself against God’s love for us and turns our hearts away from it. Like the first sin, it is disobedience, a revolt against God through the will to become “like gods,”123 knowing and determining good and evil. Sin is thus “love of oneself even to contempt of God.”124 In this proud self- exaltation, sin is diametrically opposed to the obedience of Jesus, which achieves our salvation.125
   1851 It is precisely in the Passion, when the mercy of Christ is about to vanquish it, that sin most clearly manifests its violence and its many forms: unbelief, murderous hatred, shunning and mockery by the leaders and the people, Pilate’s cowardice and the cruelty of the soldiers, Judas’ betrayal – so bitter to Jesus, Peter’s denial and the disciples’ flight. However, at the very hour of darkness, the hour of the prince of this world,126 the sacrifice of Christ secretly becomes the source from which the forgiveness of our sins will pour forth inexhaustibly.”

   “It is a sin to accomodate an occasion of sin, and thus cooperate with evils .“

   Thus it is a sin to not hold a council, even if it not be perfect, and declare that the election of Jorge Bergoglio to The Papacy could not possibly be valid.

   1. I do not think it is a sin per se not to call a Council to resolve this, because it can be resolved in several ways other than by a Council.

      1. Maybe you could expand as to what other way AF can be denounced.

      2. I have written on this extensively. Use the Search Engine here at FromRome.Info and search for

         Imperfect Synod
         Imperfect Council
         Declaration

4. “Penance, Penance, Penance.”

5. These guys are officially in my history book as the propagators of one of the greatest of all trad-heresies of which someday we will read in the Encyclopedia Brittanica:

   “Roman neo-traditionalism”: the notion that the unity of the Roman Catholic Church rests on accidental customs of the Roman liturgy, and so long as these are preserved, the Church can subsist without the legitimate successor of Saint Peter as its head or maximum authority.

   The heresy surged after the second vatican council and spread throughout the world especially during the time in which “two popes” allegedly reigned in the Vatican, of which one was not canonically elected to the Roman See.

   Staunch proponents of the heresy were a group of influential and traditional-minded schismatics like Dr. Taylor Marshall, Michael J. Matt, John Henry Westen, Steve Skojec, Dr. Canon Peters, Ryan Grant, Steve Ray (among others) who were later found to comprised what was commonly known as a “neo-traditionalist” Cabal called “Trad Inc.”, and were said to have belonged to the conservative wing of the Sankt Gallen group. The group of laymen was supported by a number of high-ranking Cardinals of the same conservative movement among the Sankt Gallen group, that sought to dethrone the legitimate reigning pontiff (Pope Benedict XVI).

   1. Thanks EM for this info! What little the Modernists & Apostates have left of the Church not yet destroyed these fake Trads will be finishing off because if Christ is made a liar in His promise of A NEVER FAILING ROCK, a perpetual Peter, who will hold the Keys of the Kingdom on earth IN HIS EARTHLY ABSENCE then there is neither a CERTAINTY OF A Catholic Church or any CERTAINTY for the Christian faith, Both COULD BE ENTIRE FABRICATIONS AND ILLUSIONS. THE STUNNING BLINDNESS OF TALYOR AND HIS GANG STAGGERS MY MIND WHO STILL HAVE THE AUDACITY TO CLAIM TO BE CATHOLIC! These men are Protestants, are they not?

6. Timestamp 1:16:43 Tim Flanders claims Ryan Grant’s essay at 1Peter5 “refuting so-called Benevancantism is the best essay on the topic. and then proceeds to repeat the idiotic analogy of a presumedly valid marriage which you yourself refuted here:

   https://fromrome.info/2020/02/15/its-like-divorce-but-it-isnt/

   These guys are desperate. Just wait until +Vigano declares for Benedict.

7. Your opinion, or do you have any proof?

   1. My discernment. I would love to test it, in St. Dominic’s foolproof method. Placing my well-prayed Rosary around his neck and watching the result.

      1. Well, without proof I cannot allow such an accusation, as it would be calumny and defamation and libel.

8. Referring to the Grant piece was a joke. His reasoning is specious and shallow.

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